Discussion:
WOULD STEPHEN HARPER PUT CHILDREN IN JAIL?
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v***@aol.com
2006-01-23 03:03:42 UTC
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Hidden agendas? Hell, I'm worried about the open ones. Like what? A
sage seven-year-old recently said, after watching Oliver! the musical,
"I'm glad they don't put kids in jail any more." I didn't have the
heart to tell him the Harper agenda includes sentencing 14-year-olds as
adults, with stiffer terms, but no plan to attack conditions like
unemployment that breed youth crime and violence.

The problem isn't that this lacks compassion or is ineffective. The
problem is it's counterproductive. As evidence, I cite: the United
States. Research and common sense indicate that you simply incubate
more grim behaviour by increasing desperation and alienation while
reducing alternatives. The same effect occurs internationally. The Bush
war on terror has expanded the amount and range of terror it claims to
be fighting, for the same reason: It refuses to deal with incubating
causes and, in the process, becomes a cause itself.

Take Iraq. Due entirely to the U.S. invasion in the name of defeating
terror, Iraq has turned into the main global spawning ground for
fundamentalist terror. Zealots drawn there are now returning to
Afghanistan with new techniques - suicide attacks, remote-control
roadside bombs - developed in Iraq. Canadians are recent victims and
will be again, despite our absence from the tinderbox of Iraq.

A Harper regime would apply these one-sidedly punitive,
counterproductive policies both domestically and internationally. Who
benefits? Not crime's or terror's victims, who remain vulnerable. Maybe
they offer peace of mind to the inflicters: "At least we did
something back to those 14-year-old bastards."

Can anyone get Stephen Harper to stop saying God bless Canada at the
end of a speech? It is too squirm-inducing. How did it happen? They
needed something to counter Paul Martin's boast that he could say "I
love Canada" and Stephen couldn't. (More power to Stephen on that
one.) Perhaps someone suggested an actor's trick: Conjure up a phrase
or feeling you're familiar with, then substitute.

So Stephen imagines he's American, maybe the president, maybe just a
senator. He starts off with: ". . . and God bless Amer-" but
inserts Canada. Maybe he should just say, God bless Canada, too.
Reminds me of Mike Harris. When he took over in Ontario, he changed the
name of our local school governing body, which he hated, from board of
education to Toronto District School Board, solely because that's what
they're called in the U.S. - just before bombing the whole system.
Don't you just love the Americanization of Canada advocated by Stephen
Harper and Mike Harris?!.
Dick Swallow
2006-02-03 07:25:24 UTC
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AMEN! (Or does that sound a little too much like S.H.?). Perhaps while
he's busy "Americanising" Canada, someone could take up that most American
of past times... ASSASSINATION!
Post by v***@aol.com
Hidden agendas? Hell, I'm worried about the open ones. Like what? A
sage seven-year-old recently said, after watching Oliver! the musical,
"I'm glad they don't put kids in jail any more." I didn't have the
heart to tell him the Harper agenda includes sentencing 14-year-olds as
adults, with stiffer terms, but no plan to attack conditions like
unemployment that breed youth crime and violence.
The problem isn't that this lacks compassion or is ineffective. The
problem is it's counterproductive. As evidence, I cite: the United
States. Research and common sense indicate that you simply incubate
more grim behaviour by increasing desperation and alienation while
reducing alternatives. The same effect occurs internationally. The Bush
war on terror has expanded the amount and range of terror it claims to
be fighting, for the same reason: It refuses to deal with incubating
causes and, in the process, becomes a cause itself.
Take Iraq. Due entirely to the U.S. invasion in the name of defeating
terror, Iraq has turned into the main global spawning ground for
fundamentalist terror. Zealots drawn there are now returning to
Afghanistan with new techniques - suicide attacks, remote-control
roadside bombs - developed in Iraq. Canadians are recent victims and
will be again, despite our absence from the tinderbox of Iraq.
A Harper regime would apply these one-sidedly punitive,
counterproductive policies both domestically and internationally. Who
benefits? Not crime's or terror's victims, who remain vulnerable. Maybe
they offer peace of mind to the inflicters: "At least we did
something back to those 14-year-old bastards."
Can anyone get Stephen Harper to stop saying God bless Canada at the
end of a speech? It is too squirm-inducing. How did it happen? They
needed something to counter Paul Martin's boast that he could say "I
love Canada" and Stephen couldn't. (More power to Stephen on that
one.) Perhaps someone suggested an actor's trick: Conjure up a phrase
or feeling you're familiar with, then substitute.
So Stephen imagines he's American, maybe the president, maybe just a
senator. He starts off with: ". . . and God bless Amer-" but
inserts Canada. Maybe he should just say, God bless Canada, too.
Reminds me of Mike Harris. When he took over in Ontario, he changed the
name of our local school governing body, which he hated, from board of
education to Toronto District School Board, solely because that's what
they're called in the U.S. - just before bombing the whole system.
Don't you just love the Americanization of Canada advocated by Stephen
Harper and Mike Harris?!.
Ferenc Farkas
2006-02-04 20:37:34 UTC
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This dick must be real small of just a shit head!!!!!!
Canada is turned to a place where anyone can come in....the US is trying
to control the sick people that come here from countries that love to
kill people....so , you will cry out that you are Canadians and love
Canada like those ashole in England that were dorn there but still blow
themself up...killing people real humans and not the asholes like the
ones that killed......Imagine , religious freaks tying to tell us that
they are passive.....hahaha....thats real BS....this is the morning
chant" a bomb a day will keep the USA away"..
they will kill there owne children to prove that there God is
great.....real sad .....no real God will ever ask to kill another
soul.....so why do they ?????????
2 wrongs don't make a right......
but Imagine what life would be without the USA>>>
Last i remember, Canada was Christian majority....and we put up with
every other religion.....no one people make Canada great ......but No
shit head will kill or hurt my Canada.....because we will round them up
and get rid of them....
so we love all Canadians and we will always wellcome new imigrants...
live and let live.....
our best friends need our help then we should help......
If you hate the USA, then you got to get out of here and go back under
the rock you crald out from....
and i we get attacked that will start the end of the shithead from here...
until then we love you and ....for real now how the hell did we vote
for an idiot.....this is the most dumb as thing we did.....
the reform-servatives......Are we out of it or just blind.....
until the next elections this summer..hahaha
love you all
Post by Dick Swallow
AMEN! (Or does that sound a little too much like S.H.?). Perhaps while
he's busy "Americanising" Canada, someone could take up that most American
of past times... ASSASSINATION!
Post by v***@aol.com
Hidden agendas? Hell, I'm worried about the open ones. Like what? A
sage seven-year-old recently said, after watching Oliver! the musical,
"I'm glad they don't put kids in jail any more." I didn't have the
heart to tell him the Harper agenda includes sentencing 14-year-olds as
adults, with stiffer terms, but no plan to attack conditions like
unemployment that breed youth crime and violence.
The problem isn't that this lacks compassion or is ineffective. The
problem is it's counterproductive. As evidence, I cite: the United
States. Research and common sense indicate that you simply incubate
more grim behaviour by increasing desperation and alienation while
reducing alternatives. The same effect occurs internationally. The Bush
war on terror has expanded the amount and range of terror it claims to
be fighting, for the same reason: It refuses to deal with incubating
causes and, in the process, becomes a cause itself.
Take Iraq. Due entirely to the U.S. invasion in the name of defeating
terror, Iraq has turned into the main global spawning ground for
fundamentalist terror. Zealots drawn there are now returning to
Afghanistan with new techniques - suicide attacks, remote-control
roadside bombs - developed in Iraq. Canadians are recent victims and
will be again, despite our absence from the tinderbox of Iraq.
A Harper regime would apply these one-sidedly punitive,
counterproductive policies both domestically and internationally. Who
benefits? Not crime's or terror's victims, who remain vulnerable. Maybe
they offer peace of mind to the inflicters: "At least we did
something back to those 14-year-old bastards."
Can anyone get Stephen Harper to stop saying God bless Canada at the
end of a speech? It is too squirm-inducing. How did it happen? They
needed something to counter Paul Martin's boast that he could say "I
love Canada" and Stephen couldn't. (More power to Stephen on that
one.) Perhaps someone suggested an actor's trick: Conjure up a phrase
or feeling you're familiar with, then substitute.
So Stephen imagines he's American, maybe the president, maybe just a
senator. He starts off with: ". . . and God bless Amer-" but
inserts Canada. Maybe he should just say, God bless Canada, too.
Reminds me of Mike Harris. When he took over in Ontario, he changed the
name of our local school governing body, which he hated, from board of
education to Toronto District School Board, solely because that's what
they're called in the U.S. - just before bombing the whole system.
Don't you just love the Americanization of Canada advocated by Stephen
Harper and Mike Harris?!.
GaryK
2006-02-05 05:17:08 UTC
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But a 14 year old should know right from wrong, that should be learned in
School or by parents at home.

At 12 years old they can join the Army Cadets, the Cadet Corp's will keep
him/her busy and also teach them right from wrong
Post by Dick Swallow
AMEN! (Or does that sound a little too much like S.H.?). Perhaps while
he's busy "Americanising" Canada, someone could take up that most American
of past times... ASSASSINATION!
Post by v***@aol.com
Hidden agendas? Hell, I'm worried about the open ones. Like what? A
sage seven-year-old recently said, after watching Oliver! the musical,
"I'm glad they don't put kids in jail any more." I didn't have the
heart to tell him the Harper agenda includes sentencing 14-year-olds as
adults, with stiffer terms, but no plan to attack conditions like
unemployment that breed youth crime and violence.
The problem isn't that this lacks compassion or is ineffective. The
problem is it's counterproductive. As evidence, I cite: the United
States. Research and common sense indicate that you simply incubate
more grim behaviour by increasing desperation and alienation while
reducing alternatives. The same effect occurs internationally. The Bush
war on terror has expanded the amount and range of terror it claims to
be fighting, for the same reason: It refuses to deal with incubating
causes and, in the process, becomes a cause itself.
Take Iraq. Due entirely to the U.S. invasion in the name of defeating
terror, Iraq has turned into the main global spawning ground for
fundamentalist terror. Zealots drawn there are now returning to
Afghanistan with new techniques - suicide attacks, remote-control
roadside bombs - developed in Iraq. Canadians are recent victims and
will be again, despite our absence from the tinderbox of Iraq.
A Harper regime would apply these one-sidedly punitive,
counterproductive policies both domestically and internationally. Who
benefits? Not crime's or terror's victims, who remain vulnerable. Maybe
they offer peace of mind to the inflicters: "At least we did
something back to those 14-year-old bastards."
Can anyone get Stephen Harper to stop saying God bless Canada at the
end of a speech? It is too squirm-inducing. How did it happen? They
needed something to counter Paul Martin's boast that he could say "I
love Canada" and Stephen couldn't. (More power to Stephen on that
one.) Perhaps someone suggested an actor's trick: Conjure up a phrase
or feeling you're familiar with, then substitute.
So Stephen imagines he's American, maybe the president, maybe just a
senator. He starts off with: ". . . and God bless Amer-" but
inserts Canada. Maybe he should just say, God bless Canada, too.
Reminds me of Mike Harris. When he took over in Ontario, he changed the
name of our local school governing body, which he hated, from board of
education to Toronto District School Board, solely because that's what
they're called in the U.S. - just before bombing the whole system.
Don't you just love the Americanization of Canada advocated by Stephen
Harper and Mike Harris?!.
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